In this extended interview for Beneath Sheep's Clothing with Michael O'Fallon of Sovereign Nations, Michael shares his expansive knowledge and experience with the Marxist incursion into globalist entities such as the World Economic Forum, and into churches including the Catholic church, Evangelical churches, and more. He explains how the Marxist dialectic is at play in America with the woke left vs. the "cringe" right/Christian Nationalists. He shares how globalist entities are seeking to "degrow" the United States and other Western nations so that China and the "global south" can rise in economic prominence, and much more!

1 hour & 2 minutes

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0:04 – How Michael believes that certain individuals of the World Economic Forum are using their position for the purpose of bringing to pass the Tribulation that would lead to the Second Coming of Jesus, with China being at the forefront of all of this.

2:03 – The new system the WEF is seeking to establish where the United States is subjected to “degrowth” and the “Global South” (Asian countries) would rise and become preeminent.  This new order would be authoritarian in nature.

4:40 – The oldest strategy in the book – divide and conquer.  How to prepare a society for conquest – you set them against one another.  You balkanize a nation.  The “Big Sort” where you get people only talking to people who believe just like them.  Social media silos.  “Safe spaces”.

6:53 – BRICS nations and nations part of the Belt and Road Initiative working together to economically rise above the United States.

7:40 – How China is continually building new nuclear power and coal plants, while the United States is tearing down coal plants and slow to build any new power plants at all.  How this is part of degrowth for the West. 

8:31 – The goal is to get rid of free market capitalism because it’s not “sustainable”. So “stakeholder capitalism” is the supposed answer, and many of the churches are on board with this. The dialectic.  They have people on “both sides” pushing for this same answer so that no matter which “side” wins, socialism and authoritarianism are the end result.

10:36 – Churches and others are coming to view collectivism as the best system to move toward.  We are being moved from an economy of abundance to one of scarcity.  This is what he Great Reset is for.

11:53 – Dom Helder Camara, Integralismo (Integralism), bringing Marxism into the Catholic Church.  Pact of the Catacombs.

14:30 – Changes in the Catholic Church rubbed off on Protestant Churches, Anglicanism, Evangelical Christianity.  Install an official church in each nation that goes with the program and denigrates capitalism.

17:50 – The example of Rick Warren, author of “The Purpose-Driven Church”.  Warren working with the WEF and Council on Foreign Relations.  Other Evangelical leaders, as well. 

18:58 -The “gain of function” ideology in how to control churches.  They learned that you can’t set up socialism while banning religion.  They are now doing it hand-in-hand with religions. 

20:25 – More on Rick Warren, speaking at the WEF in 2008 and making his case on how faith could be a part of the globalist new world order.  Religion would be the 3^rd leg of the stool, with public/private partnerships as the other two legs.  This is Integralism.

22:50 – The Gospel Coalition, Critical Race Theory and intersectionality brought into the churches.  The Southern Baptist Convention working to “fix” America’s immigration system, and the churches come to support unchecked illegal immigration into the U.S.  NGOs work together with the faith-based organizations, USAID, organizations working with the UN, and etc. to push unchecked illegal immigration.

25:35 – Tribalism within churches prevents church members from speaking out against these Communist agendas that the churches are promoting.

26:26 – End result of these agendas all go through – top-down authoritarianism.  End of cognitive liberty.  End of true freedom of religion.   

27:47 – The dialectic explained – problem, reaction, solution.

28:30 – The reaction to the woke, Christian Nationalism.  More on the balkanization of the U.S. So that China and the BRICS nations rise.

30:49 – Klaus Schwab – stakeholder capitalism, “inclusive” capitalism, the drive to promote equity, Dom Helder Camara brought to be a speaker at the World Economic Forum (WEF).

32:26 – These globalists seek to destroy what is so they can create their new world.  George Bernard Shaw, Fabian Window.  They are shattering the world to bits. 

34:15 – The human toll of all this destruction of what is. 

37:50 – What can we actually do to top these agendas from coming to fruition?  Return to our roots, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, solutions for the churches as well.

40:19 – The churches must depose leaders who promoted Marxist agendas within the church.  Dr. Jarvis Williams of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. Matt Chandler with The Gospel Coalition.

44:20 – It’s the same plan taking over churches, businesses, NGO’s, political institutions, entertainment, sports – bringing in DEI and ESG.  If this plan is carried out, there will be no room for dissenters.  It operates as a totalitarian religion.

46:13 – How meritocracy is superior to DEI. White fragility, how calling everyone “racist” is like a religious manipulation.

49:01 – How the rhetoric for urging people to get the Covid vaccine was often explicitly religious in nature. Kathy Hochul, governor of New York, as an example.  Rick Warren and Francis Collins of the NIH.

51:52 – How the implementation of Critical Race Theory is a new Puritanism – a woke Puritanism.  And the counter to that is a resurgence of the old Puritanism in Christian Nationalism.  Both are bad for America.

54:38 – Division stoked in America on so many counts, especially during the Covid years.  Everything became about life and death, so many rules pushed for the “public good”. 

59:31 – Both the progressive left and the “cringe right”/Christian Nationalists are participating in tearing the nation apart and seeking to abandon the Constitution as the rule of law in America.  The solution to this division.

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